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- Spiritual Consciousness-Ancient Medicine for Modern Problems
This Monday, HG Purujit prabhu will be discussing with Samyak Sanantan Chantel the solution for societies problems. Be sure to attend this highly enlightening event!
- Everything Belongs to God
Delivered as a class on the 1st mantra of Sri Isopanisad by his grace Purujit Prabhu in the B.L.I.S.S. ashrama in London, UK. It's such a wonderful mantra, sometimes, when people are Christians or Muslims and they're a little biased, they think that 'Oh, Hare Krishna is another religion'. So when they come into the attack mode, we show them this particular verse. It is so nice. 'Everything animate or inanimate, that is within the universe is controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept things necessary for himself, which is set aside as this quota and must not accept other things knowing well to Whom they belong.' So, who can deny that everything belongs to God? Any of these religious people must admit, 'Yes, everything belongs to God'. Srila Prabhupada is analyzing in the purport, that even the building... Prabhupada is very clever because we all live in some buildings, so he's trying to relate to us, that even the building you live in consists of cement, earth and water and all these different elements, metals. But you can't make any of these elements in the laboratory. You can't make metal out of nothing. It is in nature. Water also, earth, these are different energies of Krishna. Krishna has different energies. We are also one of Krishna's energies, but we are the superior energy. So, it is foolish, this is our illusion. The illusion is that we think we are the body, 'I'm a man, woman, ugly, beautiful, British, Mitish, Shmitish, Finnish, Polish... polish, finish, don't finish... Another problem we have is that whatever is related to the body, we consider to be 'mine'. But the body is not yours, you can't keep the body, tomorrow you'll have another body, the body is constantly changing, growing. You can't keep this body, you want to catch it, but you can't catch the body because it changes in your hands and the hands themselves change. dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara tatha dehantara-praptir dhiras tatra na muhyati (Bg 2.13). This is a nice verse from the Bhagavad-gita. 'As the embodied soul continually passes from boyhood to youth to old age, so he passes into another body at death. The self-realized soul is not bewildered by such a change.' Nothing belongs to us, the body doesn't belong to us. Because the body is also made of earth, water, fire, air ether, all these elements. So, everything belongs to Krishna. Srila Prabhupada gives a very nice definition or a description of God. He says that you create water by your body. A limited portion of water - saliva, urine, sweat, you generate these. As soon as the soul is out of the body - no sweat, no saliva, no urine. Finished. Similarly, just like in the Bible it is said that the man is created in God's image, Krishna, gigantic Krishna, Maha-Visnhu generates oceans, rivers, lakes, all coming from His body. So those who say, 'Where is God? I cannot see God'. That's okay. There is earth, there is air, water, fire, can you see these elements? In this world, can you see earth? Yes. Can you see water? Yes. Can you see air? No, you cannot see, but you can feel it. So these are all coming from God's body, He generates the elements for us, so we can play here, we can play God. We're complete nonsense, but we play gods, 'I am God'. So, we can understand God very simply. It is science. It is not a belief that 'I believe, you believe, we all believe'. We all believe something blindly, then we realise 'Oh, we're so foolish, we are so mudha' We have accepted someone, some so-called guru and then we realise that guru was simply taking our money and enjoying in Thailand with prostitutes. These things happen. Now we must use our intelligence, we must scientifically understand Krishna. Srila Prabhupada is so powerful that even he's not physically present, he is still preaching. Such a powerful preacher. Still preaching through his books, through his videos. He can also preach through you if you sincerely accept him as your spiritual master. So, this is our problem, instead of recognising Krishna's existence and His supreme proprietorship over everything, we say 'Oh, no, it doesn't belong to anyone, I just take it, It's mine'. No, it's not yours. You have your quota, Krishna has given you material nature, your tiny little piece of material nature. So you can enjoy it, that's okay. It's not that we should cut enjoyment. You enjoy very nicely, even sex life you can enjoy, that is okay. We never say that sex life is bad. Krishna is that sex life which is practised according to the religious principles. But don't encroach upon others' property, their quota. We must encroach because we cannot control our senses. The nature of senses, Krishna explains in the Bhagavad Gita, is just like pouring oil in a fire. The fire is increasing, the more you enjoy on a sensual platform, the more the senses require it, 'more, more, more, come on'. The human life begins when we perform tapasya, when we say 'No, no, no, wait a second. I must do the opposite!' In our materialistic society, the emphasis is 'Enjoy your senses like a pig.' But in Krishna consciousness, we say, 'No, don't enjoy like a pig. Enjoy like a human being'. What does it mean to enjoy like a human being? Enjoy with Krishna in the centre of your life. That's it. If we put Krishna in the centre then everyone is satisfied. It is not a selfish enjoyment. If we please Krishna, if we enjoy with Krishna, everyone is pleased. Why? Because everyone is part and parcel of Krishna. mamaivamso jiva-loke jiva-bhutah sanatanah manah-sasthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karsati (Bg 15.7) Krishna says, 'All of you, all you guys. Bill Gates, Trump, Americans, Indians, Chinese, all of you are My fragmental parts and parcels'. So if you please Krishna then everyone is pleased. People argue, 'Why... you just always, this 'Krishna'. You should also help others. Why are you so selfish? Show compassion. Take care of your fellow man, your neighbour, love your neighbour, it says in the Bible'. So, we must understand it scientifically. You please Krishna, you serve Krishna and thus you're serving everyone. And if you're serving your fellow man, then you're not serving your fellow man, because you're serving his body, and he's not the body. The body is changing, but we're not changing. We're the soul. We can observe it, 'Yes, my body has changed. Look at my body, oh my God, I'm 38 years old.' But I am not this body, I'm eternal. I'm not 38 years old. I'm not a man or a woman. I'm not ugly, I'm not beautiful. Try to meditate on this. 'I'm not this body. I'm not hungry. I'm not sleepy. I don't have the sex desire. These are all senses, dragging us to the material nature, to the cycle of samsara. 'Come, take birth in 8,400,000 species of life. Come with me'. Maya is always asking, 'Leave Krishna alone. I'll give you everything. In my kingdom, you are Krishna'. That is maya's allurement. So we must be intelligent. We should not indulge in the senses. Tapasya, that is the beginning of human life. It is not simply 'Oh, you, Krishnas, only you have this restriction. In our Christian religion, we can indulge, in our Muslim religion...' No! Forget religion. This is a universal principle of religious life. You must perform tapasya. And you must perform charity. Charity also requires sacrifice. This is how we know who is religious and who is just a fake. He must manifest the symptoms of a religious person. You can say so many things, people make so much show. You must exhibit the symptoms of a religious person. Doesn't matter what religion you follow, we don't care for this. We kick out these designations, we don't care. If a Muslim comes here, we welcome. Yes. Islam means submission to God. Very good. You pray five times a day. First-class. It should be encouraged. And similarly, we must perform sacrifice because nothing in this world belongs to us, we're just renting, we have our quota. And even within that quota, we're encroaching upon others. We kill the ants, we kill the bacteria, we breathe, we kill so many living entities. So we must perform sacrifice to become purified, from all these sinful reactions. Especially in eating. Prabhupada explains that we offer our food to Krishna. We are not vegetarian or vegan, we are not concerned with these designations. Again designations, 'Oh, I'm vegan, I'm vegetarian, I'm this, I'm that'. We don't care. Offer your food to Krishna. Of course, you must know what Krishna wants, not that you offer Him any damn nonsense. And how do you know? The spiritual master tells you. Srila Prabhupada tells us, and even Krishna Himself, He says, patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati tad aham bhakty-upahrtam asnami prayatatmanah (Bg 9.26) Leaf, water, fruits, anyone can offer this. Even if you're not a vegetarian, even if you eat meat. You can still offer to Krishna. Take a flower, take an incense, take a fruit, put it before a picture of Krishna and offer it. That is the beginning of your Krishna consciousness. You take that fruit, buy it and think, 'Oh, Krishna has tasted these fruits'. Meditate on Krishna. That is a top-notch meditation. We meditate by eating. See? All these impersonalists, they meditate on nothingness. That is impossible. They don't meditate on nothingness, they meditate on sex life. But we meditate on Krishna, by eating sweet tasty prasadam. How wonderful this Krishna consciousness is? By eating you liberate yourself from material existence. By eating you're doing the greatest sacrifice. It is inconceivable. This is the mercy of Krishna, Lord Caitanya. So people are grabbing this world. 'Everything is mine, the corporations are taking over everything, stealing like crazy. Everything - the forest, the woods, flowers, trees, the grass the waters the oceans everything is being stolen by these rascals. Prabhupada says that they're liable to be punished by the laws of material nature. That's going on, you'll get punished. You're kicked out at the time of death. 'Oh, this is yours? Your America? Yeah? Get out! Take birth in China you rascal'. Trump's complaining about China, 'China, China, the Chinese, Chinese...' He dies and he thinks of China, he's taking his birth in China, and that bomb that he released very nicely falls on his baby head in China. Very twisted reality, all filtered through the body. So this Sri Isopanisad is highly recommended. Read this book every day. You'll get all the knowledge you need about God, about your relationship with God, Krishna, and how to live peacefully. People need to know this, that this is the property of Krishna. It's not your property. You must sacrifice that property for Krishna's service. This is required. Otherwise, you can give... people get puffed up, 'Oh, I give charity to the poor, I give to African children'. But this is not yours, you have stolen Krishna's property and now you're giving it out and you're taking credit for yourself. What is this? This is very bad. Let's say I steal $1 million dollars from a bank, and I give to the homeless, I throw the money in the street and when I get arrested and I'll say, 'I did charity. I am a very good person'. 'No, go to jail'. So Prabhupada is giving us a formula for peace. Just be conscious. Everything belongs to Krishna. If we understand that it belongs to Krishna and it should be used for Krishna, then there is no problem. Nothing is mine, nothing is yours - that is spiritual communism.
- A Podcast About Reasons for God.
A nice devotee from New Zealand debated an atheistic philosopher recently, and we decided to react to it. Give our podcast a listen and prepare for wit, banter and heavy arguments.
- Jesus Christ: The Greatest Vaishnava Event.
Click the link in the picture to transmigrate to the stream! And watch this class to know how He is the only way. HG Purujit prabhu will be reading and discussing Srila Prabhupada's quotes live on Friday morning for an ecstatic remembrance of the great saint Lord Jesus Christ. Join the livestream on Facebook at 7.00pm here: https://www.facebook.com/events/744674863073211 For more livestreams, classes and similar events head on over to: https://www.facebook.com/theblisslive Hare Krishna! The video recording of the event can be found here:
- Eat Meat Without Killing
#vegan, #vegetarian #eatmeatwithoutkilling #prabhupada Although the vegetarian and vegan diets have become somehow popular in the last few decades, not everyone can become a vegan or a vegetarian and change his lifestyle. Is it therefore possible to eat meat and yet avoid contributing to the massive slaughterhouse culture of today where poor animals are mercifully killed simply for the gratification of someone’s tongue? Srila Prabhupada, the founder of the Hare Krishna movement explains how this is actually possible. Tamala Krsna: Cow is going to die naturally, anyway. Prabhupada: Yes. Then, if you want flesh, take that dead body and eat. Tamala Krsna: Why don't they see this, that just by killing a cow you don't get more cows. They're going to die anyway. Prabhupada: Yes. Everyone is going to die, but they are so voracious, they do not wait up to the death, and they have theorized that "Dead animal is dangerous to health. Now kill while it is in life." Harikesa: Yes, they think like that. Prabhupada: Yes, but... They have got so many nonsense philosophy. But if that philosophy is supported, when you kill the animal, he becomes dead. (laughter) Sudama: Yes, they call it "fresh meat." Prabhupada: Just see. "Fresh dead." Just see. The rascals are so fools that unless you make him dead, you cannot eat. So why do you theorize that a dead animal is not good? Harikesa: Well, 'cause he had to die from some cause, and that cause is... Prabhupada: Cause, all right. It is also cause. You are killing, that's all. Harikesa: The knife is clean, whereas the germs are... Prabhupada: That's all right. Formerly the Hindus, they used to purchase meat and cook it in Ganges water. (laughter) Tamala Krsna: Oh, boy. Harikesa: Purify it. Prabhupada: They thought, "Now it is..." And you will still find in Calcutta, "Hindu butcher." That Hindu butcher is pure. You have been in Calcutta? So they are going on. Tamala Krsna: The Jews have that, "Kosher butcher." Prabhupada: "Mother's prasadam." The rascals say, "It is mother's prasadam." Tamala Krsna: Durga, Kali-prasadam. Prabhupada: Yes. The Ramakrishna Mission, they take mother's prasadam. And they call... Tamala Krsna: And you will also be mother's prasadam. Prabhupada: Yes. Sudama: Even they kill fresh, Srila Prabhupada, sometimes they will kill a cow who has some disease in liver, and then they will eat and they will all die... Prabhupada: Well, they manufacture so many ways. That does not mean we have to support it. We accept that these are animals, that's all. Morning Walks -- January 22-23, 1976, Mayapura Pusta Krsna: What we've been doing with the dead cows is burying them, there's no..., everything's wasted. Srila Prabhupada is proposing that why not the butcher take, we give free, he simply returns us the skin of the cow, and with the cow hide we properly tan it, we can make mrdanga heads for the khol, and shoes, straps, whatever may be needed. The idea being that in the Western countries especially, people are accustomed to eating animals, animal flesh. So we have no objection. Prabhupada: Beef, especially beef. Pusta Krsna: Especially cows and beef. So we have no objection, but they should at least wait until it dies naturally. What is the harm? They still get the same thing, and one devotee, Kirtanananda, I think, was saying that when they slaughter an animal even in the slaughterhouse, it has to sit some time, some number of days before they distribute it. So I proposed that the Westerners, they consider that this is superstitious, this protection of the cow. Prabhupada says Why superstitious? The cow is providing milk. Every child knows that he's getting milk from the cow, the cow is mother. So why in the old age we should slaughter mother? Is this a good argument that like, for example, they say, in India, how so many people are starving, why don't they eat the cows? So Prabhupada proposed that "If you're starving, does it mean that you eat your mother and father?" Prabhupada: If you want to eat, let the father and mother die, then eat. (laughter) Who has objection? Pusta Krsna: It's so reasonable. At least, Prabhupada says, for the saner section, they will accept. Hari-sauri: The thing is, people are mad after meat. Prabhupada: Madman... Pusta Krsna: But they still get it. Prabhupada: But he'll get meat. Hari-sauri: But then their argument is that if we don't have big, big slaughterhouses, then there won't be enough supply. Prabhupada: No why should...? After all, the animal is going to die. It is not for..., he's permanently. Why should you kill? Pusta Krsna: But they kill the animal first in the slaughterhouse and then do whatever they have to do. Dhrstadyumna: But we are killing when they are young, when their meat is fresh. When the body is old, the meat is... Prabhupada: That you have to change. Fresh or dead, you're eating flesh, that's all. You wait till the death. Dhrstadyumna: But the old flesh is not... Prabhupada: Anyway, you do not..., you do whatever you like. So at least you can take free of charges a dead cow from us, and you can give us only the skin, and you eat. Dhrstadyumna: This should be the system. Pusta Krsna: It's so reasonable. Prabhupada: Yes. We don't want anything from you; you take it, the whole flesh. You take free. You simply give us the skin, we can utilize it. Pusta Krsna: Even if people would do this, it would be such an advancement. Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Because a class of men will demand to eat the flesh. You cannot stop it. So we are giving free: you eat. And from economic point of view, we require the skin for our mrdanga making. So give us the skin. That's all. Pusta Krsna: Prabhupada says the butcher, even, he can sell the meat cheaply, make profit. He's getting it free of charge. Hari-sauri: Maybe some time in the future this could happen when Krsna consciousness becomes very powerful influence in the country, but unless we could actually close the slaughterhouse... Prabhupada: No, but now by imploring, we are requesting him that "You can take this cow and sell in your shop, butcher shop, you give us the skin. And you can tell the customer that it is as good, it is cheaper. So whatever money you get, that is your profit. You haven't got to invest anything." Dhrstadyumna: Do you propose that we should do this now, Srila Prabhupada? Prabhupada: (laughs) No, no, this is... Think over. Hari-sauri: Yes, the proposition is very good, that's a fact. Prabhupada: First of all, you try one butcher, that "Why not make this advantage?" How does he react, see. Dhrstadyumna: Yes, that he will not pay anything... Prabhupada: He's not going to pay us. You simply take it and sell it. Pusta Krsna: They sell meat..., for one pound of meat, they can get sometimes two dollars, three dollars, four dollars. So much money... Dhrstadyumna: But the government has inspectors, a team of inspectors. No meat can be sold unless it is inspected, and then they want to examine the conditions. Prabhupada: So let them inspect. What is the wrong there? It should be open. If the inspection, there is nothing wrong, then they can do this business. Hari-sauri: Generally, though, their inspection is when the animal is alive, they check to see that he has no disease. Then they can be killed. But if an animal dies naturally, then generally it is to be supposed that it dies from some malfunction within the body, that there may be some diseases or whatever. So then... Prabhupada: That is artificial. Hari-sauri: But that is their rules and regulations they have. Prabhupada: They'll change. When they, by chemical analysis, they don't find any fault, then they can change. From economic point of view, why this body should be wasted? Let it be utilized. Those that are eating, let them eat. And economic point of view, we save the skin. We require it for our purpose. That is the agreement. After all, we require the skin for our khol making. Dhrstadyumna: For the farm straps? Pusta Krsna: Shoes, slippers, so many things. I think Kirtanananda Swami has done that with some of the cows. They have taken the hide for making things, straps. Hari-sauri: They're not doing it now, though. Prabhupada: But we should not do it ourselves. Dhrstadyumna: Yes, that's for the mucis. Prabhupada: That is not our business. Dhrstadyumna: Give it to the butcher. He will get the skin and give it to us. Prabhupada: Not that everything we have to do. No. That will deteriorate. Those who are doing, let it be done by them. Hari-sauri: It seems like it will be a long time before we can implement something like that. Prabhupada: I am proposing, think over it. Because it is a fact that in spite our vigorous propaganda, we cannot stop meat-eating. That is not possible. People will eat. So those who are eating, let us make some arrangement that "You take it free of charges." From economic point of view, they get it free. They can make good profit. And we are interested with the skin. So why not make some arrangement? It is practical. Hari-sauri: That's very good. Prabhupada: Instead of the thing being wasted for nothing, let us devise some means, that you are eating, you can eat. And we want the skin, let us give him. What is the wrong there? Pusta Krsna: Perfect economics. Prabhupada: Yes. We require the skin, that's a fact. And you want to eat, all right, eat. Pusta Krsna: Could such a thing be done today in India also? Prabhupada: No, why it will be done? Everywhere it should be. That is the... Who does not eat meat? First of all, you try this. From economic point of view, why one thing should be wasted? Dhrstadyumna: Practical preaching. Hari-sauri: We can't stop meat-eating, but we can stop the unnecessary slaughter of animals. Pusta Krsna: That would be a great step forward. Prabhupada: So our business is to stop slaughter. Meat-eating we cannot stop. Certain persons, they must eat. They are fourth-class, and then fifth-class men. There are four classifications—brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra and candala. Candalas, they will remain, and they are eating. Let them eat meat. That is the system in India still. It is not that in India nobody's eating meat. The cobbler class, they eat; the candala class, they eat. Pusta Krsna: Even cows, cow flesh. Prabhupada: Dead. This cow killing has been introduced by these Britishers. Dhrstadyumna: Christian. Prabhupada: Christians. Hari-sauri: Even they're exporting beef from India. Prabhupada: Yes. They can do anything, take the dead cows. I do not know if there is any chemical composition change. They are eating so many dead animals. Take for fish. The fish is never killed alive, because as soon as you take it out from water, it is dead, after few minutes. Pusta Krsna: And they don't consider whether it's a young fish or an old fish. Dhrstadyumna: If that was the system, people will not get sick. They will not get sick from eating old animals. Prabhupada: No, no. This is all wrong conception. Dhrstadyumna: They will say..., simply think the taste there is too tough, the skin may be older. Prabhupada: They are eating so many rotten things. Dhrstadyumna: Yes. And they are burning it, cooking it. Prabhupada: Lobster, it is simply pus. They eat. I've seen it. From whiteness it has become yellow. Puslike. They eat it, what is called that soup? Lobster soup? Pusta Krsna: Clam chowder? So many things. Prabhupada: But they like very much that lobster soup. In the plane, one Englishman was doing "What is this? I asked after lobster soup." Pusta Krsna: In England? Oysters? Prabhupada: No, lobsters. Pusta Krsna: With the big pinchers. Hari-sauri: They get the lobsters sometimes alive, and they throw them in boiling water, and they can hear them screaming. But now they're speculating whether it's actually the lobsters screaming because it's being boiled alive or whether it's just air that's coming out from its body and making a squeaking noise. Prabhupada: No, that is, apart from that, they import lobster from India, Cochin. They are exporting lobster alive. I have seen. The same ship, they load it with lobster fat, and black creepers, and cashews, they exported. The big, big business firms are exporting. So these lobster, although they are kept in ice and so on, so on, they become decomposed. I've seen in the port, that Commonwealth Pier. There is store of lobster, and the lobster has become yellow and almost melted by decomposing. They are selling that. Hari-sauri: When it starts to fall apart, that's when they consider it's the best. Prabhupada: Hmm? Hari-sauri: When it starts to fall apart, that's when they think it's the best. I think I mentioned before, in England, the gentry, the British gentry, when they used to go hunting, shooting pheasants and partridges, afterwards they would get the dead birds and hang them in a shed outside, and then after some days, when all the skin and feathers were literally falling off, that's when they would eat it. That's when it was considered rich. Prabhupada: There are so many kadarya things. In Burma, they have got a system, Burmese family. In the door, there is a pot, a big pot. So whatever animal dies, put it in there and cover it. So in this way, after some years, they're decomposed, and it becomes liquid, and then it is so decomposed that if you open it, within three miles they smell. So that is mature. Then they take out the liquid and keep it in bottles. That is called naphi. And they stock it, and when there is some feast at home they'll give little that naphi, and they'll relish it. Pusta Krsna: Barbers? Prabhupada: Burma. Pusta Krsna: That's the most... Prabhupada: And when you fry luci, all the other tenants will come "What you are cooking?" This is practical because we opened..., my Guru Maharaja opened a branch in Burma in an apartment. So that Gauranga who was my servant in family life, he was there. He said like this, that "When I fry puri, the ghee smell is there, so many people will come from other apartments, (whispers) "Oh, what you are cooking? What you are cooking?" And the naphi, they relish it in feast. So it is a question of taste. Pusta Krsna: That's the ultimate. Dhrstadyumna: I remember as a child in Hong Kong, in the village they would keep big glass jars of snakes, they would put the snakes in jars. And after they were many times soaking in liquid, then they would eat it. Hari-sauri: Pickled snakes. Prabhupada: Snakes. Dhrstadyumna: Yes, keep it in a jar in liquid. Prabhupada: They put in the jar alive? Dhrstadyumna: No, they catch it, kill it, put it in the jar. Hari-sauri: It's like a pickle, they pickle it. And when they want to eat it, they take. Prabhupada: So there is poison in the mouth, they cut it? Dhrstadyumna: They cut off the head, flesh. Prabhupada: Snake they eat. Even in India there is a class, they eat snake. Chinese, they eat. They are Chinese? Dhrstadyumna: Yes. Prabhupada: They eat anything. Room Conversation -- June 29, 1976, New Vrindaban
- Problems and What to Do?
In this conversation from 1975 Srila Prabhupada, the Hare Krishna founder explains the root of all problems in our society -the lack of Krsna consciousness. Prabhupada: So America is blind, and we are lame. So let us get on the shoulder of the American blind and give him direction, and both will be benefited. The whole world will be benefited. The America, blind, he cannot see where he is going. (chuckles) And for want of money we cannot make progress. So let the Americans take on the shoulder this lame man, and I will give direction, "Go this way. Go this way." Everything will be all right. Andha-kanja-nyaya. [break] ...nice building, churches, there is no use. Take our direction. Everything will be all right. [break] ...take our direction, what is the loss on their part? Hmm? What is the possible loss? Why they will deny to take our direction? [break] (out of car:) Tell them about this andha-kanja-nyaya. Jayatirtha: Prabhupada was talking about the fact that the western world is blind and India is lame for lack of money. But by a combination there is very good effect. So if the western world takes us on its shoulders... Prabhupada: Especially America. Jayatirtha: Especially America. On its shoulders then we can give, Prabhupada can give direction, and they can provide the resources. America will provide the resources, and we will provide the direction. [break] Prabhupada: ...mayor and the police officers, through them, try to approach higher authorities. And what is that? We met yesterday? Harikesa: The public relations? Prabhupada: Ah, public relation. So convince them to..., the Americans should take this Krsna consciousness movement on the shoulder, and because the Americans are blind, we shall give them direction on the shoulder, "Go this way. Go this way." So blind and the lame man combined together will perform a great task. [break] ...blindly, simply accumulating money, but they do not know how to utilize the money. They should take direction, authorized direction from us, and then it will be very nice. [break] ...not these concocted "isms." This "ism," that "ism," that "ism." Because it is, andha yathandhair upaniyamanah. These all rascals are blind. They do not know how to direct. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya [SB 7.5.31]. They are trying to adjust the world affairs blindly. They do not know. So let us combine. Let them come forward, take direction from us. After all, your money, my money, your intelligence, my intelligence -- everything belongs to Krsna. Sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisthah [Bg. 15.15]. Krsna is giving intelligence. We must agree to take His good advice. Early morning till night, we are always thinking, "How people will be happy by Krsna consciousness?" And they are coming here for rowing boat. You see? How blind they are! The human life, so intelligent life, and they are utilizing for rowing boat. How blind they are! Not a single moment to be wasted and they are simply finding out, "How to waste time?" [break] ...is "Crime, what to do?" "Hippies, what to do?" "Problems, what to do?" Why "What to do?" Here is a direction. Do like this." "No, sir, that I will not do." Morning Walk -- July 8, 1975, Chicago
- Our New Temple
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- How Should the Devotees Deal with the Lockdowns?
The following is a class on the Srimad Bhagavatam SB 1.1.23 delivered on the Facebook livestream by Purujit Dasa, the founder of the Bhaktivedanta Lives In Sound Society. We think that we have met Your Goodness by the will of providence, just so that we may accept you as captain of the ship for those who desire to cross the difficult ocean of Kali, which deteriorates all the good qualities of a human being. PURPORT BY HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA The age of Kali is very dangerous for the human being. Human life is simply meant for self-realization, but due to this dangerous age, men have completely forgotten the aim of life. In this age, the life span will gradually decrease. People will gradually lose their memory, finer sentiments, strength, and better qualities. A list of the anomalies for this age is given in the Twelfth Canto of this work. And so this age is very difficult for those who want to utilize this life for self-realization. The people are so busy with sense gratification that they completely forget about self-realization. Out of madness they frankly say that there is no need for self-realization because they do not realize that this brief life is but a moment on our great journey towards self-realization. The whole system of education is geared to sense gratification, and if a learned man thinks it over, he sees that the children of this age are being intentionally sent to the slaughterhouses of so-called education. Learned men, therefore, must be cautious of this age, and if they at all want to cross over the dangerous ocean of Kali, they must follow the footsteps of the sages of Naimisaranya and accept Sri Suta Gosvami or his bona fide representative as the captain of the ship. The ship is the message of Lord Sri Krsna in the shape of Bhagavad-gita or the Srimad-Bhagavatam. PURUJIT DASA: Today I received the news that there is going to be another lockdown here in UK from the fifth of November. So, this will be quite a struggle for all the people and the devotees also. We won't be able to go out and distribute books. These are very testing times. Will everything be ultimately banned? Will they soon perhaps ban colour from our live stream as well? Imagine we will not be able to use colour in our FaceBook live streams anymore. We are going to stream in black and white only. No more colour. No more going out. No more talking. No more book distribution. No more harinam sankirtan. This is the age of Kali as you can see now very nicely. So here, Srila Prabhupada is giving the solution. What is the perfect solution for today's society? One must accept Sri Suta Goswami, or his representative, as the captain of the ship. This human body is like a ship. It is a very nice facility to go back home back to Godhead. Especially the human form is very rare. It is very suitable because in the human body we have advanced intelligence. In the animal species, there is no such possibility of inquiring about Krishna, and there is no devotional service. In the animal body, one is pretty much controlled by the senses. So, we should not misuse this human form by using it simply to satisfy our animal propensities. Animal propensity should be curbed. We should control our senses and we should control our behavior. Our mind influences our behavior but also vice versa. We're also being influenced by the impressions from the outside, from the conditioning we grew up in or the conditioning we're in right now. So we must be very careful. The best is to associate with the devotees, because in devotee association one develops devotional desires and one's consciousness changes. In the non-devotional atmosphere, quite the opposite, we're forced to act in a non-devotional manner: we cannot speak about Krishna and we cannot chant. We cannot serve Krishna, because non-devotees become envious. So we change our behavior and this also influences our mind. Similarly, in devotee association we change our behavior. When we enter the temple, for example, we see the devotees pay their obeisances, so we also pay our obeisances. And this is the beginning of devotional service. Actually there's one shloka where Krishna says, man mana bhava mad bhakto mad yaji mam namaskuru. He says that simply by offering Him obeisances you can go back home, back to Godhead. So, in nondevotee association we develop non-devotional behavior and patterns that result in non-devotional desires and in Krishna-devotee association, we develop Krishna conscious desires. That's why we should take advantage and associate with devotees. Association with devotees doesn't mean we must necessarily associate physically. Right now we're not physically together with devotees from Facebook, but we can associate by vibration. Vibrational association is more important than physical. What is the use of meeting if we talk about nonsense? Vibrational association is more important. And it has no limitations, it can go on, in any way. Ahaituki apratihatha is a statement of the Srimad Bhagavatam. Devotional service is unchecked by material circumstances. Otherwise this age is very dangerous. There is all the opportunity for us to develop this human form of life, otherwise we become victimized by the age of Kali, the age of quarrel and hypocrisy. Real devotees never argue. They argue for Krishna's sake, not for ego's sake. That is the difference. Arguing is natural, but arguing should be for Krishna's sake, not for my own sake. And how do we know what is for Krishna's sake? What does Krishna want? We must accept a guru, a spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada is our spiritual master, so you can take shelter of Srila Prabhupada and everything is resolved automatically. He is the captain of the ship. Then you must follow his instructions, just like the captain on the ship, he gives some order. "Oh, now you do this, you do that, go there, do this." The captain is giving many orders. Similarly, the spiritual master is giving many orders, and if you want to remain on the ship, if you don't want to drown, then you must follow his orders, everything he says. So if we make a show and if we are not following, then what kind of journey back home back to Godhead is that? It is a farce. We must follow what the guru says very strictly. I should not speak whatever I want. I should not speculate. If people don't like, then we don't care. What Srila Prabhupada says - that we follow. And if people don't like it, we don't care. There will always be people who like Krishna consciousness because this is the natural consciousness of every living entity. We all want to love, we all want to serve, but we're serving temporary relationships, so we are becoming frustrated. When we come to Krishna, we'll become satisfied. Everyone is aiming towards Krishna. Some people know, some people don't. We must focus on those who already know and not become an entertainer for those who don't want to know. Just like Michael Jackson - such a nonsense person, and yet he was the greatest entertainer in history. So we should not be the greatest entertainer in the history. We should perform devotional service for Krishna, not for our peers and friends and society and for likes on Facebook. Only for Krishna's sake, for Srila Prabhupada's sake. Whatever he says we follow. And if the whole world says don't do it, "don't follow Prabhupada," then we don't care for the entire world, let the whole world be bombed. We don't care. We'll follow Srila Prabhupada. So Srila Prabhupada also gives us a method how to preach. He says you immediately introduce Krishna. Don't go around the bushes. You tell people: "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." That's how you introduce yourself, so everybody knows that you are a devotee of Krishna, that you are completely crazy, complete fanatic, into the good thing. Being crazy and fanatical about a good thing is good, being crazy and fanatical about nonsense is bad. So we introduce immediately, "Yes, we're devotees of Krishna, we have dedicated our life to Krishna, we do everything for Krishna, Krishna is wonderful, you kindly accept Krishna consciousness by your hearing. Try to understand the science. We have not come to do crusades, but you kindly hear, and consider the philosophy, the wonderful philosophy of Lord Caitanya, consider with your intelligence. Apply your logic, your reasoning and decide what you want to do. But we're not going to fake it. We're not going to please the crowds and hide Krishna consciousness. We're not cowards. We immediately present: "Yes, Krishna is the Supreme." Why not? Why Krishna is not God? There must be some perfect person. Everywhere there is a perfect person. The highest authority. Just like here in the UK it's the Queen who is the highest authority. So do you mean to say that in the whole creation, the whole cosmic manifestation, there is no highest authority? What is this nonsense? There must be. Otherwise, why there's high, higher, the highest? Where is it derived from, this differentiation? There must be a perfect person. If you say that perfection doesn't exist, if there is no perfection, then how do you know who is imperfect? You're simply complaining, "Oh this world is so imperfect, everything is bad, all imperfect, incomplete." You're complaining, but if there is no completeness, if there is no perfection, if there is no God, then how can there be imperfect? How can you complain? You can only complain based on some point of reference, there must be some point of reference, you understand? There must be some ideal, otherwise, why are you complaining? You're complaining because you know deep inside there is Krishna, the perfect, the perfection. You're desiring for that perfect situation of Krishna consciousness. Otherwise, why are you complaining? You should consider. If we there was no God and if there was no soul, then we would have been just a bunch of COVID chemicals. But at the same time they are trying to shut down the whole world because of their fear of death. Well, you're a bunch of chemicals, so you die. Or if you're such an expert that you know the secret of life, then you inject such a vaccine, Mr. Gates, you inject such a vaccine that a person doesn't die. When he dies you give him a vaccine against death, and he becomes again alive. Can you do it, rascal? No, simply talking. "Oh, we have to save the whole world." What are you saving? You're saving no one. No one is saved. Everyone dies. You can save him from some virus, some preliminary, but ultimately everyone dies. So what you have done? Nothing. Lord Jesus says, the poor and the sick will always be there, but I will not be with you always. So even Lord Jesus condemns this philanthropy rubbish. Just see how evil this philanthropy is! Just see how demoniac! It is demoniac. Love of man is demoniac. Why? Because it's not love of man, it's the love of the body. Love of man is this Krishna consciousness. And not just love of man, but love of animals, love of all living entities, everyone. That is Krishna consciousness - you love Krishna, you love everyone. Because Krishna is present in all His parts and parcels in the form of the Supersoul. And these parts and parcels are also part and parcel of Krishna and when you serve Krishna directly, even you might not serve the living entities, they are benefited. And they will feel it if they themselves connect to the powerhouse of Krishna consciousness. Otherwise they are just disconnected limbs of the body of Krishna. If I cut off my hand, it may look like a hand but it has no function of a hand. It cannot function and I can't use it in any purposeful manner. So, we must be very strong and preach very strongly and not compromise with these rascals. What Srila Prabhupada has given it's so much relevant to the time right now. So much relevant. Srila Prabhupada always criticized these rascal scientists, who speculate something, without following any authority. They don't accept any authority. They just manufacture something from their brains. Such a nonsense. Such a puffed up rascal. He thinks that "Whatever I think that is divine, that is absolute because I speculate. I'm a very great scientist." So now, we're locking down the whole world because of the rascal scientists. Just see. So you have heard Prabhupada? When he says "scientists are rascals", do you believe that? Or are you saying that Prabhupada was from the 19th century and you feel intimidated by the scientists? Don't think like that, like a rascal. If you have no faith in Prabhupada's words, you're just another cheater! Prabhupada says, "scientists are rascals" so we must repeat "scientists are rascals", so people understand that these are demons and not human beings. They're demons. A human being must use his intelligence for higher purpose. All these people, don't be misguided... They're all rascals, they're speculating. They posing as big authorities. One theory they put, then they change it, then again change. So many theories they have, you just go on YouTube and try to find out what is going on. There are millions and billions of authorities. Ramakrishna rascal another rascal, demon, kick on his face. Impersonalists also say this: "There are many paths. Everyone is a guru. You accept everyone. There should not be one authority. That is very bad, very fanatical, very fanatical." Okay you want that? Okay, Krishna gives you. Now you have millions of authorities to choose from, you will not know a damn thing what is going on, because everyone has his own version. See? Everyone is a guru now. Very nice. Very good, completely messed up in a head everyone. So what Srila Prabhupada says, don't think that that was meant for the 60s. Prabhupada is talking to you right now, in all of his books, in all of his recordings. He's speaking to you and to you personally. What are you going to do with this human form of life? Are you going to die like an animal? Simply gratifying the senses and following these foolish scientists? Or are you going to rise to a higher, elevated state of consciousness? That consciousness is already there, but it is covered. It is covered by this misinformation, by this bodily conception of life that has been pushed on us from the very beginning in a slaughterhouse of the soul(the mundane education). How many years have we wasted in these schools, learning stupid things of these scientists? Nonsense theories that are no longer valid. It's like a new iPhone, you know? It always changes. Similarly all these theories change and we are subjecting our children to this rubbish brainwash. That's why Prabhupada calls it by a very suitable word, "slaughterhouse for the soul". Do you take it seriously what Prabhupada says? Are you going to send your children to the slaughterhouse of the soul? You want their soul to be slaughtered? You see, we might be reading Prabhupada's books but do we really understand, do we really believe in his words? Because if we believe in his words we're going to either act on them or we are just going to hear like pigs. Pigs are also hearing, but they don't assimilate or understand anything. We must act on it, you see? So it is a very evil world, very bad. Prabhupada says "this world is surcharged with godlessness." Godless. This is number one problem. Everyone is godless, no good qualities. No good qualities and posing as a lover of men, philanthropist: "I love the humanity. I'm so kind. And while I love humanity I kill billions of animals and slaughter them to pieces." Just see the hypocrisy! And they say this is not bonafide to preach like this. They say that this is not good for preaching. So, they should be kicked on the face first. They should be kicked on the face first because they're the greatest rascals. They're posing as devotees and they are confusing. Those who are meant to preach this, they're confusing them. They're the greatest rascals, they should be kicked on the face first. They should be first in the line.The scientists are there, the Mayavadis are there. I have lined them up now, in this class, you can take notes on whom to put in the line. And number one are these so- called devotees, who are stopping our preaching. They want to censor our preaching. But because it is Prabhupada's instruction, they're against Prabhupada. How can they be devotees? How are they going to be devotees of Krishna, if they don't accept, if they go against Prabhupada's order? Judge by the fruit, phalena pariciyate, and judge by the words. Judge what they say. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati said: Judge a sadhu by ears. You see the sadhu by the ear. This is how you see a sadhu, with your ear not by your foolish eyes that are blind. Is that what he says what Prabhupada says? Prabhupada says "kick on their face". So, do these devotees say "kick on their face"? Are they saying "kick on their face"? They're not saying. I don't hear that they say: kick on their face. So that means they're bogus. That should be the first thing, That should be like a "Hello.", "I kick on the face of the Mayavadis". It will be a greeting. When you enter the Krishna temple, that's how you should greet devotees. "Hare Krishna Prabhus, let's kick on the face of the Mayavadis, because they're the greatest rascals". This is the real compassion. What is the use of making a show of compassion if you're not angry at the Mayavadis? Instead you're angry at devotees and you're not angry at the Mayavadis? That means you're a Mayavadi. For example, Maharaja Pariksit wasn't saying that the personality of Kali should be treated with respect, when the personality of Kali was killing the mother cow. Instead he immediately took out a sword and he was ready to kill that rascal. You see? So we should not be weaklings. Of course we cannot now take swords. That is not what I'm saying. But you must have some anger. Srila Prabhupada has a genuine anger. When there's injustice, there must be anger. Anger is natural. Why it should be considered something unnatural? Anger is natural. If your child is attacked, you become angry. So why not become angry when all living entities are being cheated by these rascal Mayavadis and scientists? Mayavadis are nirvisesa, scientists are sunyavadis. Nirvisesa sunyavadi pascatya desa tarine. That's why Prabhupada has come- to kick on the face of these scientists and kick on the face of the Mayavadis. Very simple. This is the mission. And how do we do that? By chanting Hare Krishna. By chanting Hare Krishna, you will see who is a Mayavadi. Mayavadi will come and say "don't chant". The scientists will come and say "Don't chant. You cannot chant. We passed a resolution. We passed the law, no chanting. Chanting is bad. It's bad for the people. We must now, engage in collecting plastic bags and putting our heads in the plastic bags." Whoever is against chanting is against Lord Caitanya, against Prabhupada, against Krishna. You just mark those who are against chanting. That's how you will know, phalena pariciyate, by the results. What do they preach these rascals? "Don't chant". Just see. What a mockery - "Don't chant". What a mockery! This is the yuga dharma and they say "no, don't chant". So don't support these rascals. They're rascals. You chant Hare Krishna, and follow Srila Prabhupada.
- Healing is a Waste of Time
What is the use of finding a vaccine? This disease or some other, we must become diseased, as this is the nature of this world. Better we find a cure for this material body. Robert Gouiran: May I ask you what do you think about possibility of healing? Prabhupada: Hm? Yogesvara: Healing. Prabhupada: Healing? Where is healing? You are dying, and where is the healing? Robert Gouiran: You don't think that people could have a gift for healing? Prabhupada: There is no healing in the material world. There is disease always. There is no question of healing. Their healing is temporary. I am suffering from some disease. You give me some medicine. Does it mean that there will be no more disease? You heal that temporary disease. Again another disease. So where is the healing? So this is to be thought, that... Healing, that is the problem. There is no healing. There is always disease, this disease or that disease. If you prefer this disease heal, you are cured, and there will be no more disease, then you are profited. Another disease. You heal this, another disease. You heal this, another disease. Robert Gouiran: So you think we can't help people? Prabhupada: Eh? You cannot! Can you help people to stop death? Or to stop disease? Or to stop old age? I am becoming old, can you stop? Robert Gouiran: I think so. Prabhupada: That is foolishness. If you think that you can stop my old age growing, then that is foolishness. It is not possible.
- Plan for the Post-Covid World.
In this conversation Srila Prabhupada, the saintly founder of the Hare Krishna movement explains the causes of the present day collapse of the economic structure and chalks out the plan for the future of mankind. Ramesvara: There was one question I had, Srila Prabhupada. You have written in the third volume of the First Canto different instructions for the Age of Kali, how there'll be compulsory marriage and so on and so on. And you mentioned about the gold standard, that this is very bad, this artificial standard of monetary exchange. Prabhupada: Oh, yes. It is very bad. Ramesvara: In the future this is something that we should try to correct. Prabhupada: You should introduce coin, real money. Hari-sauri: Real gold coins. No paper. Prabhupada: Anyone has got money... It is fact. And what is this nonsense, keeping some paper and thinking that he has got money? How cheating it is going on, from government's side. And therefore artificial inflation. You can print, so the price is increased. Because you haven't got to pay him real money -- you print and pay him -- and he will ask, "Give me this money. Then I'll supply." "All right, take." You print and pay. Ramesvara: It's definitely a means that the government has for controlling. Because they can withdraw money, pull it back out of circulation by increasing the interest the banks give, or they can get more money in... Prabhupada: Anything done artificially. Ramesvara: Yes. They control the amount of money, interest on loans. It's all standardized from what they call the Federal Reserve system. This was introduced during the Depression by the bankers. Prabhupada: Whatever they do, when you receive money in the paper it has no value. Bad money. It is bad money. It is not good money. Ramesvara: Actually, most purchasing in America is done on credit now. Even a step beyond paper money is credit -- no money, buying on no money; loans. Prabhupada: That is in India also. Ramesvara: We don't find these things in Vedic culture too much. Now one thing is... Prabhupada: There was never paper money. Hari-sauri: No. They used to... Prabhupada: That barter system: "You have got rice; I have got something else. So I give you something; you give me something." Hari-sauri: But isn't inflation still possible even with coins? Even if you have gold coins, isn't inflation still possible? Prabhupada: No, gold is acceptable by everyone. Ramesvara: The main point is the barter system. Hari-sauri: Yes, well its value is recognized by what it can..., by its purchasing power. Prabhupada: Yes. Hari-sauri: So you can alter... Say, you like have one gold coin. You can alter what it... Prabhupada: No. If you introduce real metal coin, then there will be no inflation. Hari-sauri: There's only a certain amount of metal. Prabhupada: That's all right. The exchange... The more demand, more price. So suppose here is a spectacle. I am demanding ten rupees. So both of you are customer, and you are asking for this spectacle. Then I am increasing my price. So if you can pay me by printing paper, you'll accept any price. That means artificially price is increased. Is it not? Ramesvara: Yes. Hari-sauri: So the idea is that with coins the man who has the goods, he can't... Prabhupada: Therefore... Suppose he has got ten coins, you have got ten coins; I am wanting fifteen coins. So there will be no competition. I have to accept either from you or you, ten coins. Hari-sauri: Right. Because there's only that much money. Prabhupada: But if I increase price and if you print... If you have got power to print, "All right. Take fifteen coins, er, fifteen rupees." But you print and pay me. But if the gold, the coin, is there, you cannot increase on that. Hari-sauri: He can't increase the price of the product, and the man who got..., 'cause there's only a certain amount of money there. Prabhupada: But I can increase the price, provided you pay me. But by printing, it is easier. But if you have to collect coins, that will be difficult, so there will be no artificial increase of... Hari-sauri: Yes. Coins is a check... Prabhupada: Yes. Hari-sauri: ...on charging too much. Prabhupada: That is wanted. And these rascals, they are artificially printing paper as money. And I am a rascal; I'm demanding more because I have got customer. Ramesvara: The difference between Vedic culture and..., the Krsna conscious culture and the modern culture is very, very dramatic, very big difference. So the transforming of society... Prabhupada: And besides that, if we concentrate in farm project there will be no need of exchange, because I'll be satisfied with my products, that's all. There is no need of exchange. Whatever I need, I get in my farm. Ramesvara: Weaving, cloth. Prabhupada: Everything you get. So I haven't got to go outside for exchange. If you are satisfied in your farm, I am satisfied, then where is question of exchange? There is no need of artificial... So this banking, "fanking," everything will collapse automatically. There is no money, who is going to keep money in the bank? Hari-sauri: Who needs it? Prabhupada: [laughs] So this artificial way of banking, that will be also collapsed. Hari-sauri: This is revolutionary. Ramesvara: It's very hard for the mind to... Prabhupada: No, simply do this. Ramesvara: Such a dramatic transformation of society. Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever it may be... We should be satisfied locally by our food, by our cloth, by our milk. That's all. Let the whole world go to hell. We don't care. If you want to save yourself also, you do this. Here is an example. Just see. If you want artificial life, city life, and hellish life, you do. But we shall live like this. This is the ideal life. Hari-sauri: But still, we're going out to attract people to come to our life-style. Prabhupada: Hmm? Hari-sauri: We're still going out to attract people to come and live like us. Prabhupada: Yes. Ramesvara: Well, even more than that, we know that we have the secret to real life, so it's our duty to actually... Just like you say... Prabhupada: That is preaching. That is preaching. Ramesvara: ...the surgeon, he must cut. Prabhupada: Yes. Ramesvara: The doctor must... Prabhupada: Yes. Ramesvara: ...save the patient. It's his duty. Prabhupada: No artificial dealing. Purge out. Hari-sauri: When one actually has the power, he can do that. Prabhupada: Yes. Hari-sauri: So by our preaching now, we have to try and establish a Krsna consciousness government first through the democratic system. Ramesvara: You said, "Think in terms of the whole world, not just one nation. That is our preaching." So you are training us to think very big -- global. Prabhupada: We keep the ideal style of life. You learn, and do it. I am not encroaching upon your independence, but if you want to be happy, you follow. This is our process. Apani acari prabhu jivere siksaya. You be happy, very ideally, and people will learn. But this can be possible only on the basis of Krsna consciousness. If you make minus Krsna consciousness this thing, it will never be possible. Then it will not be possible. All these scheme will be successful if there is Krsna consciousness. Hari-sauri: Only if the chanting and prasadam is there. Prabhupada: Prasadam, Deity worship, devotional life. Then it will be all right. Hari-sauri: Yes. Gandhi could never implement his program. It was a failure. Prabhupada: Nobody can do. They simply... Even... What is that? Marx? He could not. There is no real attraction. Artificial, by force. Here the real attraction is Krsna. So other thing he doesn't mind: "Let there be little inconvenience. I don't mind." Hari-sauri: A devotee is actually getting a higher taste. He's getting some real enjoyment, so he doesn't care for the other things. Prabhupada: So unless there is enjoyment he cannot stick. But that enjoyment is Krsna. Hari-sauri: Just that chanting is enough. It's just so much nectar. Prabhupada: No, everything -- Deity worship, chanting, kirtana, preaching, publishing, distributing -- everything. Room Conversation – January 21, 1977, Bhubaneswar
- Why Students of the Vedas Don't Accept Modern Scientists as Authorities.
Everyone accepts some kind of authority, whether it be their teachers, the news or at least their parents. We learn everything we know from some kind of authority. But all these authorities are imperfect. To understand spiritual knowledge, one must first accept a guru. This fact is clearly explained in the Upanishads: tad-vijanartham sad-gurum evabhiacchet (Mundaka Upanishad 1.2.12) Why? Because spiritual knowledge is transcendental to gross material knowledge. Material knowledge is perceivable to the blunt material senses, i.e; what we can tangibly perceive through our sense organs like objects, sounds, tastes and so on. The material senses cannot go beyond the material platform as we have limited senses. For example, although scientists are very proud of their eyes, they rely on microscopes to see germs within a room, or telescopes to see the sun. They need a camera to see even their own eyelids, although eyelids are part of their own body. We can conclude therefore, that our senses are imperfect, yet science relies entirely on the gross senses to obtain knowledge. Scientists and modern people alike want to see everything. Scientists cannot conceive of how things are really working, because they ascertain reality based on their limited capability and experience, like frogs stuck in a well trying to understand the enormous ocean. But Krishna and transcendental knowledge is beyond these limitations. So Vedic knowledge is not like that. Vedic knowledge is delivered by the perfect source of all knowledge, the supreme scientist, Sri Krishna. It’s passed down through disciplic succession, as is stated in the Bhagavad-gita; evam parampara praptam (BG 4.2), and kept in perfect purity by the same process. It comes from the apuaresya, the perfect source, and therefore it defies so called science and logic, which are used and generated by imperfect, conditioned minds. Actually, in the scientific world we also have experience that knowledge comes from an authority. In order to learn, we must go to school, or go online, or consult some book to understand anything in that field of knowledge. The first step in spiritual understanding is that when we approach a guru, we understand that we are fools, and that everything we have learned from the mundane world is useless in understanding the actual nature of the absolute truth, Krishna. We have to kick out our previous conceptions before we enter spiritual understanding. Actually these misconceptions are like dust on the mirror of the mind, and Lord Caitanya says ceto-darpana-marjanam, the chanting of hare krsna cleanses this dust so that one can understand the truth. In the 2nd chapter, 7th verse of the Bhagavad-gita, Arjuna says sisyas te’ham: he accepted Krishna as a guru, one who can actually give him real knowledge. Arjuna realized that all mundane conceptions were useless, and he therefore felt distressed. He had to approach a guru in a submissive attitude to understand. Modern science is tomfoolery and rascaldom because the so-called scientists change their opinion every few years, and there are so many different conclusions. Ultimately, all of it is just “theory." In other words, it's not actual knowledge. It's just their guesswork. Krishna is the real source of knowledge, and that has been accepted since the beginning of creation: tene brahma hrda (SB 1.1.1), and has been passed down by much more intelligent living entities than ourselves for millions of years: imam vivasate yogam (BG 4.1), and is accepted by all scholars, yogis and saintly acaryas like Madhavarcarya, Ramanujarcarya, and even Sankarcarya. So there’s no doubt about the authenticity and authority of Vedic knowledge, but even without accepting it's authority through statements of recognized teachers and scholars, by practical experience, logic and philosophy we can understand its value. Modern science, however, has never resulted in any tangible useful result except creating an atomic bomb for killing people en masse, because it relies entirely on the senses, which in most, if not all cases are uncontrolled. So we don’t accept this science as authoritative, especially if it defies the Vedic version. If it coincides with the Vedic siddhanta, or conclusion, then alright, very nice, that is the proper use of such research work.











